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Regarding RPOL (non)Bias.

Posted by OceanLake
OceanLake
member, 1018 posts
Thu 14 Dec 2017
at 19:26
  • msg #1

Regarding RPOL (non)Bias

It just occurred to me that, at RPOL, ethnicity, gender, politics, etc.* don't matter. Good manners and cooperative participation do. Therefore, RPOL is Lawful or Neutral Good.

*Age matters only as regards participation in Adult-labeled games.
DarkLightHitomi
member, 1246 posts
Thu 14 Dec 2017
at 20:20
  • msg #2

Regarding RPOL (non)Bias

Not really. Good is about giving of oneself for others, while evil is about valuing oneself above others. Therefore, even evil people can foresake discrimination or rudeness simply because they don't believe in those things themselves and don't want them around.

I'd say that the mods and jase are likely to be good as they do a lot of stuff for the site and community, but the site and community is likely more neutral.
OceanLake
member, 1019 posts
Sun 17 Dec 2017
at 07:03
  • msg #3

Regarding RPOL (non)Bias

Rephrasing: RPOL is a "place" where good deeds tend to be rewarded and bad ones punished by the very nature of why almost all participants participate.
praguepride
member, 1225 posts
"Hugs for the Hugs God!"
- Warhammer Fluffy-K
Tue 19 Dec 2017
at 05:18
  • msg #4

Regarding RPOL (non)Bias

Honestly I would call rPoL Lawful Neutral, and that True Law comes in the avatar of bigbadron.

I mean: he's big. he's bad. And sometimes...he's ron.
DarkLightHitomi
member, 1249 posts
Tue 19 Dec 2017
at 06:31
  • msg #5

Re: Regarding RPOL (non)Bias

praguepride:
I mean: he's big. he's bad. And sometimes...he's ron.


*narrows eyes*
Wait a minute. I think I've seen this quote before.
bigbadron
moderator, 15481 posts
He's big, he's bad,
but mostly he's Ron.
Tue 19 Dec 2017
at 06:35

Re: Regarding RPOL (non)Bias

In reply to DarkLightHitomi (msg # 5):

Almost.  :)
V_V
member, 655 posts
You can call me V, just V
Life; a journey made once
Fri 22 Dec 2017
at 13:26
  • msg #7

Re: Regarding RPOL (non)Bias

I would call it quite Lawful Neutral (in 3.x terms, no idea in other iterations). jase is pretty generous, I might even go as far as to say he's maybe neutral good or lawful good, but maybe not. If all that alignment was, was based on online contribution of time, energy and devotion, then yeah, heck yes he's good. He puts hard work into the updates. The mods spend how long just patrolling the forums and suspicious games. Then answering rmails and giving technical and logistical aid.

To me though, good implies a bit of meddling. It implies to have an agenda to help people whom are "unfairly" treated by bullies. jase is adamant that regardless of whether you are a ruthless GM, and have the most ill-tempered attitude to your players, making them write applications more grueling than any paid job, then kicking them out for a typo; you can be free to have the board space and ability to participate in public venues/forums, if you but follow the prescribed rules. He doesn't crusade like I've seen some RL GMs do in the LGS.

Don't get me wrong, I appreciate sympathy when I've had a horrible GM, but it also nice, because if I fruit up and have a bad day and just act the ass, I have a home, a yard with a tent and table, as I put it in my Hen analogy on Community chat a few years back. I bring my own food, and ink, but get free access to some nice dice and neon signs. Everyone does though.

That's why I think it's LN. While the mods are quite helpful, I don't find them invasive, unless you break agreement, in which case it's foreclosure, not invasion. To me most good (adventurers) break and enter and make seizure of assets a profession.

At the same time though, I don't think the mods far from good. By mods I do mean jase too, even though he's actually the admin. They will forgive trespass of the rules. In fact there's part in the adult rules that talks about them considering just removing your players and telling you in other words "Please fix this. You did it wrong. Thank you" if they are feeling generous. Then the GM need only follow the rules they should have the first time and nothing is lost. To err is human.  A true LN regime of mechanus-like order, might just be by the book. "You fruited up. Instant probation of adult access". Though by rights they may have to do that, and for good reason.

Heck, <censor>ChaosSquad10</censor> That really should be exhibit A, and I should have left it at that. I could be wrong, but I vaguely remember reading (elsewhere) that he still has access. Just exclusively with his single original access. That floored me. I mean it shouldn't, but it did. That is if I'm remembering that was written and I didn't midunderstand

As for flesh and blood discrimination...eh. I won't comment on that except to say I think that's easy on the internet with a healthy dallop of tolerance. Although trolls do too exist in the world of Good, Evil, Law and Chaos.
bigbadron
moderator, 15482 posts
He's big, he's bad,
but mostly he's Ron.
Fri 22 Dec 2017
at 13:50

Re: Regarding RPOL (non)Bias

In reply to V_V (msg # 7):

Nope, he definitely does not still have access with any account.

For multiple accounts we will only ban the extra accounts.  We leave the original account with access to the site, with one proviso... you need to reply to the rMail we sent you to confirm that you have read the rules regarding multiple accounts, and intend to comply with them in future.  If you don't come and talk to us, then the original account will be closed until you do so.

If multiple accounts isn't the only issue (especially if the multiple accounts were created to support your breaking of other site rules), then we will permanently close down all of your accounts (including your original one).  Which is why KhaosXTeam doesn't have access with any of his accounts.
V_V
member, 656 posts
You can call me V, just V
Life; a journey made once
Fri 22 Dec 2017
at 14:30
  • msg #9

Re: Regarding RPOL (non)Bias

In reply to bigbadron (msg # 8):

OH! Kay. Good...that makes me feel better. First that you knew who I meant, and that my original draft of the post I made was alright, to call him by name. I know it's bad to name certain users and than down talk them, so I wanted to be careful.

Mostly I'm glad he doesn't have access. That sounded/sounds like a nightmare. I'm sure you've got it down pat by now though. ;)

I think I remembered right, but comprehended wrong. I totally missed the nuance. I did remember you (well a mod) all saying he wasn't banned or something like that. Maybe another word. His name came up and there was a slight correction, SOMEWHERE in CC to do with his status. At the time I thought WOW...just wow. I did misunderstand though. That I'm glad of.

Anyway, so exhibit A is bogus. The plethora of prior commentary isn't moot then. :D Thanks for the right information. :) I...it really made me wonder before.... *rolls eyes* My mind is swiss cheese sometimes. *chuckles*
OceanLake
member, 1020 posts
Sat 23 Dec 2017
at 06:53
  • msg #10

Re: Regarding RPOL (non)Bias

"KhaosXTeam." KhaosX... Now, that's a name I've not heard in a long time. A long time. (Except he's a Sith.)
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