In reply to Nintaku (msg # 7):
That. My confusion is really about how both someone with Favors vs someone else without (but not a pure mortal) all need only 2 boxes of Indebted to paid for one cost of ritual.
The Favors are all core stunts of their respective mantle and they do more than provide cost for ritual, you also get them for "free" when you choose that mantle. I don't know if evil hat intended the core stunts to be purchasable by other mantle (like how stunts from other mantle could be purchase at Significant Milestone, not sure at Major), but they mention that they are more powerful than normal stunts on page 114.
In reply to Jait(msg # 6):
I don't think that Winter Favors (and the others) are with someone specific.
quote:
"Mark Indebted to call upon the Winter Court for favors."
I see it as the benefit of being part of a large group that operate on a
favor economy. The drawback is that the more you ask the group for help, the more you will be stock with errands (technically safe but challenging task, to regain 1 Indebted) or, if you are really annoying, a quest that will put you in mortal danger (to regain all of it).
Another example of the book treating Favors as being part of an large organization can be found in the Pack Influence stunt:
Red Court additional stunt, p. 165, emphasis mine :
You hold sway over other local Red Court vampires. Once per session, you can declare that you have convinced your local pack to lend you assistance: [skipped examples]. If the Red Court is particularly powerful or organized in your game, you may treat this stunt as the White Court do, using Family Favors (page 167) as a model.
The more I think about it, the more I think that Favors are mostly about being a shortcut: you already get a Sponsor willing to help you, you don't really need to bargain (you already got the best price possible), it probably don't take too much game time to call upon them.